Well just gotta clear this up. My sister and her friends seem to be talking about "nice guys finish last" which since they're 16 it definitely feels that way to them I'm sure. But I don't think it's exactly correct. Girls don't know what they want, lord knows at 20 I don't. And the guys, if they think they're the "nice guys" riiiiiiiight. They're not there yet. In my opinion guys, and girls, once they get mid 20s the "nice guys" start finishing much better than they'd ever imagined. oh well